Shams: Expect to see teams like Heat, Raptors, Celtics pursue Jrue Holiday

By HoopsHype | September 27, 2023

What’s the buzz on Twitter? Michael Grange @michaelgrangeHave had questions regarding the Raptors shifting their gaze to Jrue Holiday now that LIllard is done, but I don’t see it. Lillard offered a stagnant half-court offence instant spacing. For all of Holiday’s talents, that’s not one of them. Boston, Miami and LAC might be options. – 7:16 PM Tony Jones @TjonesonthenbaIf Portland trades Jrue to Miami, it would be like Omar selling the shipment back to Prop Joe and Cheese 🤣🤣🤣 – 6:35 PM Sean Highkin @highkinJrue undoubtedly will be moved at some point but I don’t think keeping him until the deadline is the worst idea in the world. Good vet to have around for Scoot, and then let a market develop among contenders for him midseason. – 6:07 PM Sam Quinn @SamQuinnCBSIf I’m Boston right now I’m calling Portland and asking “how many first-round picks do we need to add to Malcolm Brogdon and Al Horford to get Jrue Holiday?”He’s entirely gettable for them now. Imagine closing with Holiday-White-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis. – 6:00 PM Sam Quinn @SamQuinnCBSIf I’m Boston right now I’m calling Portland and asking “how many first-round picks do we need to add to Malcolm Brogdon and Al Horford to get Jrue Holiday.”He’s entirely gettable for them now. Imagine closing with Holiday-White-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis. – 6:00 PM Damichael Cole @DamichaelCJrue Holiday to the Bulls would be a close to perfect fit. I’m not sure there are many better style fits out there. – 5:54 PM Ryan Blackburn @NBABlackburnGoing through the prospective Jrue Holiday teams and there aren’t a ton that make sense off the top for both sides.KingsMavericksMagic…Heatand maybe Knicks?Think Jrue probably stays on the Blazers through the beginning of the season. – 5:50 PM Sam Quinn @SamQuinnCBSJrue Holiday can defend any perimeter player in the NBA. He’s a solid shooter. He’s comfortable as a point guard and he’s comfortable barely touching the ball. He’s maybe the NBA’s best teammate.If your team wants to win, it should trade for him. I don’t care who else you have. – 5:46 PM Sam Vecenie @Sam_VecenieAlso, really wonder if GSW lines up well to get Jrue with the CP3 deal plus some of their young guys. Jrue is exactly what Golden State needs, IMO, as an elite perimeter defender on guards who can also score and pass. – 5:29 PM Mark Deeks @MarkDeeksNBAThere comes a point in many player’s careers where they’re so automatically called underrated that they become correctly rated as a result, if not a little overrated. Their Horford Point, if you will.Seems we’re still not there with Jrue Holiday. He’s still underrated somehow. – 5:16 PM Vincent Goodwill @VinceGoodwillYesterday, Jrue Holiday said he wanted to remain a Buck for the rest of his career. Today, he’s gone and likely to be re-routed elsewhere. Game’s the game. Something to keep in mind – 5:02 PM Brian Geltzeiler @BGeltzNBAIf I’m Pat Riley/Andy Elisburg right now, I’m re-engaging Joe Cronin/Mike Schmitz and the Blazers on a Jrue Holiday conversation. A great way to salvage the loss of Lillard. – 4:38 PM Frank Madden @fmaddenNBAI have mixed emotions about this deal simply because everything Jrue meant to this franchise on and off the court. Just an A+ human. But man what a statement move from Jon Horst and Bucks ownership. You worried about the Bucks’ “commitment,” Giannis? Alright, here’s Dame Lillard. – 4:22 PM Yossi Gozlan @YossiGozlanCap sheets are fully updated for the Damian Lillard trade.The Portland Trail Blazers are set to generate a $13.2 million trade exception under the current framework.That figure could grow if they expand the trade and reroute Jrue Holiday.capsheets.com/portland-trail… – 4:09 PM Michael Dugat @mdugI’d love Jrue on the Mavs, but don’t see how he would fit here with Luka and Kyrie … for starters … so not putting any energy into thinking about it. – 4:03 PM Adi Joseph @AdiJosephI think I’d keep Jrue around for a few months if I were Portland. That’s the exact guy to help teach Scoot how to be the best version of himself. – 4:01 PM Kerry Eggers @kerryeggersI have to think @trailblazers aren’t done dealing. Jrue Holliday is an excellent player but that would make for a very crowded backcourt. And Scoot Henderson will need his 30 minutes a game. – 4:01 PM Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeatAs unpleasant as the world of “if” can be … if Heat can land Jrue Holiday for Lowry’s expiring contract and one future-thought piece, it still would put them ahead of the game. (Heat should call from their “786” number since Cronin might not be accepting anything from the 305.) – 3:55 PM Christos Tsaltas @Tsaltas46The MVP of the Lillard saga is Joe Cronin. He acquired DeAndre Ayton, and now he had another one great asset (Jrue Holiday) for another great deal. Blazers’ future looks so bright. #ripcity    #NBA – 3:35 PM Anthony Chiang @Anthony_ChiangWe’ll see what happens with Jrue Holiday. He seems to fit the mold of player that the Heat covets, but there’s expected to be a robust market for him.Holiday can become a free agent next offseason with a player option in his contract. – 3:31 PM Aaron J. Fentress @AaronJFentressBlazers seek to trade recently acquired Jrue Holiday, which makes sense given their guard situation.I hear the Miami Heat are in the market for a guard. – 3:28 PM Kurt Helin @basketballtalkThis is a win for the Bucks, not because of Dame for Jrue but because this is all about Antetokounmpo’s extension. Think he passes on that now? – 3:26 PM Alan Hahn @alanhahnHeat next play would be to try to get Jrue out of Portland and Cronin should ask for Miami’s offer for Lillard that he felt wasn’t enough. – 3:25 PM Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixersA source confirms the Sixers are interested in acquiring Jrue Holiday. However, the source noted it’s still a little early for something given the PG was just traded to Portland. Holiday began his career with the Sixers. @KyleNeubeck was first to report the news. – 3:20 PM Sam Quinn @SamQuinnCBSIf Jrue Holiday is still on the Blazers on Dec. 15, the Lakers should absolutely call and basically offer “whatever you want besides Bron, AD and Reaves.” – 3:14 PM Kevin O’Connor @KevinOConnorNBAThe Sixers are interested in acquiring Jrue Holiday, according to @KyleNeubeck from @PHLY_Sixers.If there’s a way to flip James Harden to the Clippers and get back Holiday, that’d be a win for the Sixers. Holiday would be a perfect fit with Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey. pic.twitter.com/jneLiH7bEL – 3:10 PM Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynoldsThis much is clear: Milwaukee is all-in on keeping Giannis (as it should be), and Portland absolutely was not going to give Dame what he wanted.Also, Jrue deserves better. But if he stays in Portland, it’ll be one hell of a how-to-play-defense class for their young guys. – 3:09 PM Dave Early @DavidEarlyWhy would Portland do this before knowing their eventual return for Jrue?How will the suns feel if they lose to the bucks in the finals ? – 3:07 PM Tony Mejia @MejiaDineroI’m interested to see how much animosity, if any, developed in Heat-Blazers talks. Jrue Holiday would be a brilliant win-now piece for Miami to turn around and acquire from Portland, which remains committed to young guards Shaedon Sharpe and Scoot Henderson. Gotta love the NBA! – 3:04 PM Eric Koreen @ekoreenLOL, I just pictured Portland calling up Miami and asking them if they’re interested in Jrue Holiday. – 3:04 PM Kyle Neubeck @KyleNeubeckThe Sixers are interested in trying to acquire Jrue Holiday, per a source familiar with their thinking.Will obviously be a robust market for him, but Philadelphia expected to see what it’ll take to re-route him.Going to record a quick second pod with @DerekBodnerNBA shortly. – 3:01 PM Yaron Weitzman @YaronWeitzmanHeat should offer basically same package for Jrue and also can you imagine trying to score against a lineup of him, Bam and Jimmy??? – 2:57 PM Dane Moore @DaneMooreNBAThe Dame trade with salaries…Bucks– Damian Lillard: $45.6M, $48.8M, $58.5M, $63.2M (player option) — 4 years, $216.1MBlazers– Jrue Holiday: $36.9M, $39.4M (player option) — 2 years, $76.3M– Deandre Ayton: $32.5M, $34.0M, $35.6M — 3 years, $102.1M– Toumani Camara:… – 2:56 PM Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNUAnother obvious reminderLA Clippers will host Trail Blazers in their regular season opener on October 25.Damian Lillard won’t be there.Scoot Henderson will.Jrue Holiday? – 2:56 PM Mike McGraw @McGrawDHSportsThe idea of the #Bulls pursuing a trade for Jrue Holiday sounds good in theory, but would be tough to pull off for a couple of reasons. One is Bulls are hard-capped, can’t go into luxury tax, so would have to send back matching salary of $36.86 mil. … – 2:54 PM Dane Moore @DaneMooreNBAThe Dame trade with salaries…Bucks– Damian Lillard: $45.6M, $48.8M, $58.5M, $63.2M (player option) — 4 years, $216.1MBlazers– Jrue Holiday: $36.9M, $39.4M (player option) — 2 years, $76.3M– Deandre Ayton: $32.5M, $34.0M, $35.6M — 3 years, $102.1M– Toumani Camara:… – 2:51 PM Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeatBut . . . this might not be over yet. With Jrue Holiday likely to be on the move, there remains a certain team that has spent the summer considering an upgrade at point guard. Of course, Joe Cronin would have to have that team’s number to call. Heat-Blazers Rumor-a-thon 2.0? – 2:49 PM Ben Anderson @BensHoopsI wouldn’t expect the Trailblazers to get a huge return for Jrue.Portland doesn’t have much leverage, he’s in his mid 30s, has a hefty price tag, and may very well leave your team next summer.But I can’t wait to watch Milwaukee, easily the most exciting team this season. – 2:48 PM Yossi Gozlan @YossiGozlanThe Milwaukee Bucks keep expenses neutral by sending out Jrue Holiday and Grayson Allen and bringing in Damian Lillard. Tax penalty is still projected at $50 million.They also opened a roster spot so they could sign a backup point guard, like Cameron Payne. – 2:47 PM Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNUI’ll say the obviousJust about everything that made sense about James Harden/Clippers connection (on-ball, off-ball, positional size/versatility, contract #, contract years, respect from stars, hometown ties) applies to Jrue Holiday. – 2:45 PM Jake Madison @NOLAJakeNot necessarily advocating for this but…Trade CJ and picks for Jrue. When Trey is healthy you can then put him into the starting lineup for Herb and keep the same level of defense (kinda) – 2:41 PM Yossi Gozlan @YossiGozlanCouple loose ends:-Still early to judge Portland’s return until we see what they get for Jrue Holiday.-Very interested to see what Miami does from here. They were in the bidding for Bradley Beal and Damian Lillard and couldn’t land one of them. – 2:40 PM Danny Cunningham @RealDCunninghamVery interested to see where Jrue Holiday ends up. Have to think the return Portland gets for him won’t be too far off for what they got for Dame. – 2:39 PM Christos Tsaltas @Tsaltas46The Portland Trail Blazers did an excellent job in this trade. Not only added to their roster a versatile veteran guard like Jrue Holiday, but most importantly, they acquired DeAndre Ayton,adding to their young core a top-level big man. Joe Cronin is THE MAN! #ripcity #NBA – 2:38 PM Will Guillory @WillGuilloryJrue Holiday would be an amazing fit in Miami, but we’ve kinda seen how negotiations go between the Heat and the Blazers… – 2:36 PM Mike Prada @MikePradaNBAOK this is probably more than Miami could’ve offered anyway, assuming Jrue gets moved for more future assets. – 2:30 PM Ben Anderson @BensHoopsWould keep an eye on Jrue Holiday as a free agent next summer, regardless of whether he stays in Portland this season or gets moved elsewhere.If he plays well this year he could opt out of his player option, even with a $40 million price tag. – 2:30 PM Jake Madison @NOLAJakeI do feel for Jrue Holiday who said, like yesterday, he wanted to retire as a member of the Bucks. And now he’s traded. That’s cold. – 2:29 PM Jake Madison @NOLAJakeLove this the Blazers. Once they flip Jrue it’ll be 2 first round picks and Ayton.Bucks get Lillard so they win. Him and Giannis are gonna be fun.Suns…you sure about this live because Nurkic isn’t good – 2:28 PM Brian Robb @BrianTRobbSo do the Blazers start shopping Jrue Holiday now or wait until closer to trade deadline to try to maximize return? – 2:28 PM Kamenetzky Brothers @KamBrothersHeat fans will hate this, but it’s a better deal for Portland. They don’t need Herro (who clearly isn’t easy to flip, since Miami couldn’t find a 3rd team). Ayton is a young big with talent. Jrue will get them a pick/picks. That unprotected 2029 for Milwaukee is valuable. AK – 2:27 PM Christian Clark @cclark_13Outlook on what the Bucks must fork over to the Pelicans from the Jrue Holiday trade looks grimmer today. Pelicans are owed an unprotected 2027 first. Also first-round swaps in 2024 and 2026, plus a 2025 first if it falls in the top four. – 2:27 PM Kevin O’Connor @KevinOConnorNBAThe Bucks are now East favorites.As amazing as Jrue Holiday is on D, he was an Eric Bledsoe level efficiency scorer in the playoffs:17.9 points on 45.1% from 2 and 33.1% from 3Now Damian Lillard will have by far the best supporting cast of his career. Incredible upgrade. pic.twitter.com/FmZ1AixY3L – 2:27 PM Bobby Manning @RealBobManningJrue Holiday, even with his contract up, will draw an enormous return to the #TrailBlazers. Creative way to get extra picks from a #Bucks deal where Milwaukee was limited in the number it could give up. They couldn’t do that with Tyler Herro. – 2:25 PM Yossi Gozlan @YossiGozlanJerami Grant could be a trade candidate to watch now that the Portland Trail Blazers have finally traded Damian Lillard.He will become trade-eligible starting on January 15 after signing a five year, $160 million deal.I would also imagine Jrue Holiday can also be had. – 2:24 PM Evan Sidery @esideryFull terms of the Damian Lillard blockbuster:Bucks receive = Damian LillardBlazers receive = Jrue Holiday, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, 2029 unprotected 1st via Bucks, unprotected swaps in 2028 and 2030 via BucksSuns receive = Jusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen, Nassir Little,… pic.twitter.com/mQYnyiUg3J – 2:24 PM Gerald Bourguet @GeraldBourguetI had thrown out a Blazers-Bucks-Suns Damian Lillard trade (bit.ly/3ETbb7C), but didn’t think it was realistic. Thought the Suns would want Jrue Holiday, the return for Portland wasn’t good enough, etc. Didn’t think Phoenix would settle for the deal that just went down – 2:24 PM Sam Quinn @SamQuinnCBSThe Bucks should absolutely retire Jrue Holiday’s number. They don’t win a title without him, and now he gets them Dame. – 2:23 PM Evan Sidery @esideryFull terms of the Damian Lillard blockbuster:Bucks receive = Damian LillardBlazers receive = Jrue Holiday, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, 2029 unprotected 1st via Bucks, unprotected swaps in 2028 and 2030 via BucksSuns receive = Jusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen, Nasir Little,… pic.twitter.com/FiHv4atBI8 – 2:22 PM Wes Goldberg @wcgoldbergSo for Damian Lillard, the Blazers ended up getting:Deandre AytonJrue Holiday (who they’ll try to flip)Toumani Camara2029 MIL first-round pickSwaps in 2028, 2030They decided that was better than what they could have gotten with the Heat involved. – 2:22 PM More on this storyline Anil Gogna: DAMIAN LILLARD TRADE SUMMARY: MIL: Damian Lillard POR: Jrue, Ayton, Camara + 3 1sts (MIL) PHX: Nurkic, Grayson, Little, Johnson MIL has 1 open roster spot. POR has 3 open roster spots. PHX needs to cut 2 players. MIL is committed to Dame for 2-years more than Giannis is under contract for. Giannis can extend now, or see how the team performs and extend next year. POR will likely move 33-year-old Jrue Holiday for more assets. He’ll then have to wait 6-months before he can sign an extension. Everyone on their roster will then be under 30. PHX saved $18M in GTD salaries over 24/25 and 25/26 seasons. -via Twitter @AnilGognaNBA / September 27, 2023