Duchess Meghan Reveals How Prince Harry Is a Role Model for Their Son

© WPA Pool – Getty Images “That’s the person that the young boy can look to and say, ‘Oh, this is what it means to be a man,’” she says on the latest episode of ‘Archetypes.’

On the last episode of her Spotify podcast, Archetypes, Duchess Meghan opens up about some of the ways Prince Harry is breaking down stereotypes for their three-year-old son, Archie.

Meghan recruits Trevor Noah, Judd Apatow, and Andy Cohen to speak with her on the season finale. Their presence marks the first time men have ever appeared on the podcast, something Meghan says was motivated in part by a conversation she had with Harry.

“If you’ve been listening to the past 11 episodes, you may have noticed that you haven’t heard many men’s voices. In fact, until now, outside of a quick pop-in from husband in the first episode, this show has featured exclusively women’s voices,” the Duchess of Sussex says, referring to Harry’s surprise cameo during the inaugural episode of Archetypes. “And that’s by design. It was important to us that women have a space to share their authentic and complicated, complex, and dynamic experiences to be heard and to be understood.”

She continues, “But through that process, it also occurred to me—and, truth be told, at the suggestion of my husband—that if we really want to shift how we think about gender and the limiting labels that we separate people into, then we have to broaden the conversation, and we have to actively include men in that conversation and certainly in that effort.”

Later, while speaking to The Daily Show host, Meghan tells Noah about another major way Harry has inspired her.

“I wrote a children’s book that came out a year ago or a couple years ago, and it’s basically about this softer side of masculinity and how I’ve seen my husband as a dad and the example of that,” she says, referring to her New York Times best seller, The Bench. “That that’s the person that the young boy can look to and say, ‘Oh, this is what it means to be a man. This is the example of that. That’s the person that I can go to when I ‘m crying. That’s the person that will sit with me. That’s the person that can put the Band-Aid on my knee.’ And that that level of being nurtured can come from a male figure in your life just as much as it can from a female figure.”